Regarding approval hierarchies

[Lakshminarayanan]

hi all,

i have a position hierarchy setup. the scenario is like this. when the document is created it should be forwarded to three persons and all the have to approve it . only then it can be approved and if anyone of them rejects it ,it is over. lets take that approver 1 prepares the document.since he doen't have enough approval limits. it should now go to all the three persons above him.
how can it be setup? is it possible to do with std functionality? or it involves any workflow customizations?

Looking forward for ur reply.

Thanks and regards,
Lakshminarayanan

[Ritz]

Is it can be done by standard setups

Ritz

[Lakshminarayanan]

how it can be done with the standard setups. can you elaborate that?

regards,
Lakshminarayanan

[Ritz]

I have not done it myself but I have discussed with few. Since from business point of view all 3 have same powers , hence they will have same position in apps. They may have different jobs. So the approval will go to all of them.



Ritz.

[admin]

There is no parallel approval as one position can report to only one position. thanks.

[Lakshminarayanan]

so you mean to say that it cannot be done and it requires workflow customizations?

[jak.gts]

Hi Lakshminarayan,

Tell me one thing is all the 3 approver have different approval limit?.
All the POs has to forward to all the 3 approver?
It can de done by std funtionality without any customization.

Regards
jak

[Lakshminarayanan]

Hi jak,
All the three have the same approval limits.Not all the POs have to be forwarded to the three. 1st approver has a limit of 1lac and the 2nd approver has say upto 2 lacs.Now if a PO crosses this limit it has to be forwarded to all the 3rd,4th and 5th approvers.They have the same approval limit of 5lacs.All the three approvers have to approve or otherwise it will be rejected.Even if it is not approved by one approver it is unapproved.

[arun1203]

Hi Lakshminarayanan [:)],

Through the standard functionality your requirement can be acheived.

Let me brief you the working of <font color="red"><b>Position Heirarchies </b></font id="red"> by taking a small example.

Let us consider the following setup cases:

<font color="red"><b>Buyer : Position A

Approver 1: Position B

Approver 2: Position C</b></font id="red">

In the position heirarchies you have associated the employees in the following manner:

<font color="red"><b>Position A-->Position B-->Position C</b></font id="red">

Which means that Position A is under Position B and Position B is under Position C.

Now let us say the number of users with <font color="red"><b>Position A=1
with Position B=1
with Position C=3</b></font id="red">

Now let us see what are the approval limits?

Position B can approve uptill 100-1000 USD
Position C can approve the range 1001-10000 USD.

When ever a buyer creates a PO with 1500 USD it follows the below path:

First goes to Position B.
Since it doesnt fall under its limit it goes to Position C.

And since Position C is with 3 users it will go to all the 3 users.

But iam not sure what happens if 2 of them rejects and one approves.
You can test this by doing the setups according to the example I have explained above.

But one important point you have to keep in mind.
That is , According to Oracle HR a Position is unique across the Organization.You cannot have 2 Positions in the same organization.

Hope now you are clear on your issue.

<font color="blue"><b>Regards [:)],
Arun Reddy.

E-Mail:arunapps@gmail.com</b></font id="blue">

[admin]

Let me explain the standard and required functionality. Just think the bank locker having one lock but 3 keys and each key is with different people. The locker will be opened when all the 3 keys will be used and if anyone is missing then the locker will not open. This is requirement of Lakshminarayanan while standard available functionality is there are separate locks/doors and to reach 3 you need to open 1st, 2nd or you will skip one or both to reach to final approver.
I think the required functionality is introduced in R12 but I have not yet explored.

Required (B AND C)

.......B
A ->------= If both will approve then Final Approved.
.......C

Available (B OR C)

A -> B -> C

Hope now it is quite clear if still any further query then please let us know. thanks